Originally posted by @divegeesterThis is what should happen to those whose names are not recorded in the book of life.
What does this reply by you mean:
It is not morally right?
It is somehow morally right for God, but not morally right for you?
"And if anyone was not found written in the book of life, he was cast into the lake of fire." (Revelation 20:15)
And here is what should happen to those who are ashamed of Jesus and His words when He comes.
"For whoever is ashamed of Me and of My words in this adulterous and sinful generation, the Son of Man also will be ashamed of him when He comes in the glory of His Father with the holy angels." (Mark 9:38; comp Luke 9:26; )
The specific details of these matters I leave fully up to God's wisdom. But these are the righteous things that should happen.
They are right, holy, and just actions of Jesus Christ.
28 Jun 18
Originally posted by @sonship
This is what should happen to those whose names are not recorded in the book of life.
[b] "And if anyone was not found written in the book of life, he was cast into the lake of fire." (Revelation 20:15)
And here is what should happen to those who are ashamed of Jesus and His words when He comes.
[quote] "For whoever is ...[text shortened]... righteous things that should happen.
They are right, holy, and just actions of Jesus Christ.Yes I know what you believe sonship.
Originally posted by @divegeesterI am not sure what you believe.
Yes I know what you believe sonship.
But I cannot spend much time here now.
28 Jun 18
Originally posted by @sonshipFire completely destroys things ~ annihilates them ~ doesn't it?
This is what should happen to those whose names are not recorded in the book of life. "And if anyone was not found written in the book of life, he was cast into the lake of fire." (Revelation 20:15)
Originally posted by @fmfYeah but thats not nice .. because then they wont get to sit and watch people suffer.
Fire completely destroys things ~ annihilates them ~ doesn't it?
They want a doctrine that enables them to enjoy the show.
Therefore the fire does not destroy it torments.
Originally posted by @divegeesterI don’t attempt to change it to suit my likes and dislikes.
What makes your personal interpretation of scripture free from “passing judgement on scripture”?
28 Jun 18
Originally posted by @divegeesterBump for any Christian here who wants to be honest and unequivocal.
Is there any eternal suffering believer in this forum who has the courage answer these two key questions:
1) is it morally right to burn someone alive for eternity? Yes or no.
2) how do you decide which parts of the book of Revelation are literal and which are symbolic.
Meanwhile you hang on to your beloved horrible doctrines with all your might.
28 Jun 18
Originally posted by @divegeester1) No.
Bump for any Christian here who wants to be honest and unequivocal.
2) Any parts that contradict the love Jesus has for us, and desires ALL to be redeemed. Jesus came to save the world, and He did so.
28 Jun 18
Originally posted by @chaney3You mean we can go out and rob, steal, abuse people and we get to enjoy the same salvation those who gave their lives to Christ, even though we despise everything people call good now? MS13 with its muder and rape culture is no different than someone who laid down His life to share the gospel?
1) No.
2) Any parts that contradict the love Jesus has for us, and desires ALL to be redeemed. Jesus came to save the world, and He did so.
Why would anyone share that since hearing about it or not carry the same weight of salvation?
28 Jun 18
Originally posted by @kellyjayThe thing we fail to recognize most of the time is that God loves the people that we hate, and it baffles us.
You mean we can go out and rob, steal, abuse people and we get to enjoy the same salvation those who gave their lives to Christ, even though we despise everything people call good now? MS13 with its muder and rape culture is no different than someone who laid down His life to share the gospel?
Why would anyone share that since hearing about it or not carry the same weight of salvation?
In the story of Jonah, he was put into the 'large fish' because he refused to listen to God.
God wanted Jonah to preach to the people that Jonah himself despised, and he paid for his rebellion.
Apparently, God loves everyone, not just the ones we deem lovable.